The whole conflict-mistake dichotomy is one of the most stupid memes
in this community, usually deployed as nothing more than consensus
building.
oh my god what’s a perceptive person like this doing in an awful
place like that
It’s not just irrational but antirational: instead of engaging with
people’s ideas you lump people into categories based on imaginary
irreconcilable differences, thus appealing to the irrational instinct of
tribalism. And that works so well on gullible Rationalists who never met
an
oversimplified-shibboleth-that-confirms-their-biases-while-making-them-feel-superior
that they don’t like.
It’s such a fucking dumb idea. Sometimes people are mistaken and
sometimes people are malicious, you don’t have to subscribe to one side
or the other 100% of the time you nimrods. It can even be the same
person at different times or topics!
It’s so blindingly basic I struggle to understand why it’s taken such
a strong hold.
Rationalists just really, really like binary paradigms that divide the world into two groups, one of which is smart and brave and awesome and the other a bunch of stupidheads:
Mistake / Conflict theory
High / Low decouplers
Farmers / Foragers
Survive / Thrive
Far / Near distinction
Inside / Outside view
Systemizing / Empathizing
Grey Tribe / non-Grey tribe
Meta / Object level
It's just tribalism. They get an in-group to feel solidarity with and an out-group to blame for everything.
>It's just tribalism. They get an in-group to feel solidarity with and an out-group to blame for everything.
It's interesting the only criticism they can muster of this sub is tribalism. Another factor is that polar categorization allows one to feel smart and superior without doing all that nasty work of digging through all that pesky information to arrive at a conclusion. This can be assessed easily by looking at whether one of the proposed sides of the binary has a built-in negative connotation.
Also the historical ignorance of the authors he reads that is revealed by the claim that most of them don’t know that *Marx* was a *revolutionary* is basically as hilarious as the Quillette piece claiming that the period known as the Reign of Terror was somehow [airbrushed from history. ](https://quillette.com/2019/03/10/the-french-genocide-that-has-been-air-brushed-from-history/)
Nobody could possibly think both "biological essentialism isn't true" and "living as the gender they were assigned at birth causes some people intense visceral discomfort"; thus, the feminists I disagree with always argue in bad faith because they're conflict theorists. I am very smart.
Also, I am a good mistake theorist and not a bad conflict theorist, which is why I believe the people who don't agree with me are bad lying feminists on the opposite side of something I *literally refer to as "The Culture War"*. My beliefs are entirely consistent, because of how rational I am.
(Ironically, despite my continual march from "woke liberalism" to "full-on Marxism/Tabbyism" and thus my obvious conflict theorist status, this post made me believe a little more in mistake theory because the poster clearly has no fucking idea what non-TERF feminists actually think.)
I was... kind of joking? But only kind of? Like, I couldn't describe the tenets of Tabbyist thought or anything like that; call it a shorthand for "socialism that makes room for not taking itself seriously 100% of the time," I guess.
(Post inspired by reading Singer’s Wikipedia page to find out his
views were once equated to Nazism in Europe’s largest weekly news
magazine Der Spiegel.)
Those dastardly conflict theorists at Der Spiegel! How dare they
compare a guy who advocates for euthanizing disabled infants to people
who actually euthanized (murdered) disabled people.
Unless the threads are connected at a level I can’t see in the link, I think you mean to comment on [this post.](https://reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/b7vczl/this_is_your_brain_on_states_rights/)
oh my god what’s a perceptive person like this doing in an awful place like that
It’s not just irrational but antirational: instead of engaging with people’s ideas you lump people into categories based on imaginary irreconcilable differences, thus appealing to the irrational instinct of tribalism. And that works so well on gullible Rationalists who never met an oversimplified-shibboleth-that-confirms-their-biases-while-making-them-feel-superior that they don’t like.
It’s such a fucking dumb idea. Sometimes people are mistaken and sometimes people are malicious, you don’t have to subscribe to one side or the other 100% of the time you nimrods. It can even be the same person at different times or topics!
It’s so blindingly basic I struggle to understand why it’s taken such a strong hold.
greyenlightenment chiming in with a completely backwards and incorrect interpretation of Marx; no sources, of course.
Also, TERFs are mistake theorists.
Those dastardly conflict theorists at Der Spiegel! How dare they compare a guy who advocates for euthanizing disabled infants to people who actually euthanized (murdered) disabled people.
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